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full solace for hamas. no victory for hamas. for ramallah, he is really on the sidelines and we can talk about it later. he wants to bring the issue of palestinian statehood to the u.n. on november 29th. that too is a false road. there really isn't a palestinian way through the gun and through hamas. >> no military solution frankly to this conflict by either side. some sort of political solution down the road. that roadmap seems very far off. at this point, hearing distant sounds of explosions, not anywhere in central gaza city, far off in the distance. we'll continue to broadcast from here, also from jerusalem, from the israeli side of the border, border towns have been hard hit over the last seven to eight days and talk to israeli ambassador to the u.s. when we come back. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant ho ho ho there's the sign to the bullpen. here he comes. you wouldn't want your doctor d
full solace for hamas. no victory for hamas. for ramallah, he is really on the sidelines and we can talk about it later. he wants to bring the issue of palestinian statehood to the u.n. on november 29th. that too is a false road. there really isn't a palestinian way through the gun and through hamas. >> no military solution frankly to this conflict by either side. some sort of political solution down the road. that roadmap seems very far off. at this point, hearing distant sounds of...
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hamas controls gaza. they are responsible for gaza. >> will you ease the blockade of grauz as a result of this agreement? >> the thing is, wolf, over the last few years we've had a gradual lifting of restrictions, slow and steady, incremental, but a slow and steady process of easing restrictions. now, here you've got to put cause and effect in the right order. we only impose restrictions because of the hostility, because of the rockets, because of the violence, because of the terrorism. if the border is quiet, that enables us to be more forthcoming and arrangements agreed with egyptians say we'll start talking from tomorrow about a process to work on those issues. >> is there an agreement that the u.s. will now help egypt prevent smuggling of weapons into gaza from -- >> well, you saw what the bhous put out, and that for us is a big issue because we don't want to see hamas, and that's one of the issues that we'll be discussing in the coming days. >> do you have an assurance from egypt that they will take
hamas controls gaza. they are responsible for gaza. >> will you ease the blockade of grauz as a result of this agreement? >> the thing is, wolf, over the last few years we've had a gradual lifting of restrictions, slow and steady, incremental, but a slow and steady process of easing restrictions. now, here you've got to put cause and effect in the right order. we only impose restrictions because of the hostility, because of the rockets, because of the violence, because of the...
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did hamas claim responsibility? did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas. not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce except those who committed. not me. the lesson is what matters. what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza and the continuation of aggression. ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our reporters in gaza city said that when that -- the bombing was announced from loud speakers in mosques, there was some celebratory gunfire heard throughout the city in gaza city. i spoke with christiane amanpour about her interview with the hamas leader. christiane, you repeatedly pressed the head of hamas about whether or not they would ever recognize israel. he gave a lot of talking points. you really pressed him on it. this is finally what he had to say. let's listen. >> you say that you would accept a two-state solution, but that you will not recognize israel's right to exist. >> t
did hamas claim responsibility? did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas. not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce except those who committed. not me. the lesson is what matters. what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza and the continuation of aggression. ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our...
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ever since hamas is in power. i think that after this conflict is over and palestinians in the west bank and in gaza will think about what has happened, they will understand that none of this would have happened had hamas not adopted this -- you called it a rejectionist policy. it's not rejectionist. it's a holy war policy. their only project is holy war until the bitter end, until they destroy israel. and this is something the palestinians need to think about very seriously. is this what they want for gaza, for the west bank for themselves? or do they want to find a path to negotiate peace with israel and co-exist peacefully in two separate independent secure states. i think it's for the palestinians to make that choice. and until then if our security is threatened, if israeli civilians come under fire, then they will take whatever measures are needed to protect them. at the same time, we are still willing to discuss and to negotiate with the palestinian authority a peace deal. we are willing to talk any time wit
ever since hamas is in power. i think that after this conflict is over and palestinians in the west bank and in gaza will think about what has happened, they will understand that none of this would have happened had hamas not adopted this -- you called it a rejectionist policy. it's not rejectionist. it's a holy war policy. their only project is holy war until the bitter end, until they destroy israel. and this is something the palestinians need to think about very seriously. is this what they...
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also an up close look at hamas and what people here really feel about hamas. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks... wait, why are you taking... oh, i see...solitary. just a man and his thoughts. and a smartphone... with an e-trade app. ♪ nobody knows... [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed. >>> one of the biggest strikes we saw yesterday was on this building. the islamic national bank. i'm assuming it was a target by israeli forces because this is the bank where salaries for hamas members are paid out from. >> that building was struck yesterday very close to the large strike that we saw earlier this evening. i'm here with ben wedeman. also joining me is princeton university's anne-marie slaughter. let's talk about hamas. fuad in the last segment was saying he thinks the gaza population is a captive population to hamas. how popular are they here? they clearly hav
also an up close look at hamas and what people here really feel about hamas. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks... wait, why are you taking... oh, i see...solitary. just a man and his thoughts. and a smartphone... with an e-trade app. ♪ nobody knows... [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed....
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i mean, what hamas is doing is wrong. >> i didn't ask about hamas. why is there tolerance in the muslim world for terrorism all the time? why is it always justified away? >> well, because they see that palestinians are being bulldozed, their rights are being taken out, their homes are being taken out unjustifiably. >> you don't fire rockets -- i'm a little behind. stay right there, we'll pick it up. >> they're both victims. >> stay right there, michael. the president himself said the white house sent susan righ suee sunday shows to discuss benghazi. why are they denying they changed the talking points on what the cia presented? our investigation continues our investigation continues tonight. so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? ♪ in a world where ♪ there is so much to see ♪ there's still no other place ♪ that i would rather, rather ♪ rather, rath
i mean, what hamas is doing is wrong. >> i didn't ask about hamas. why is there tolerance in the muslim world for terrorism all the time? why is it always justified away? >> well, because they see that palestinians are being bulldozed, their rights are being taken out, their homes are being taken out unjustifiably. >> you don't fire rockets -- i'm a little behind. stay right there, we'll pick it up. >> they're both victims. >> stay right there, michael. the...
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does not recognize hamas. president obama we're told has been also in very late night talks for his time zone. he's been in the far east on that east asia summit trip, but he's been talking to prime minister netanyahu, talking to the egyptian president morsi, and the u.s. has said that they really believe that the egyptians have played a very significant and very constructive role. again, we'll wait to see what happens but this is a major test for egypt, not so much for egypt, but for how egypt and the world might work together on these issues. the first time an islamist leader elected in egypt has taken part in these very, very difficult kinds of things. >> and even as they are apparently close to a deal, a lot of rockets came into israel today, including not far from where we are here in jerusalem, a whole bunch came in the south, i was there earlier in the day, and the israelis are continuing their strikes in gaza as well. >> well, that's right. the air war, so to speak, continues while the diplomacy also c
does not recognize hamas. president obama we're told has been also in very late night talks for his time zone. he's been in the far east on that east asia summit trip, but he's been talking to prime minister netanyahu, talking to the egyptian president morsi, and the u.s. has said that they really believe that the egyptians have played a very significant and very constructive role. again, we'll wait to see what happens but this is a major test for egypt, not so much for egypt, but for how egypt...
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did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas, not other people, not hamas. no one can announce except those who commit it, not me. the building lesson is what matters. who committed the circumstances that led to this operation. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza. and he creates such ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our reporters in gaza city said when that -- when the bombing was announced from loud speakers in hamas, there was celebratory gunfire in gaza city. i spoke to christianne amanpour about her interview. >> you pressed on whether they would ever recognize israel. he gave a lot of talking points. this is finally what he to say. let's listen. >> you say you would accept a two-state solution but won't recognize israel's right to exist. >> i accept the state of the 1967. how can i accept israel? they have occupied my land. i need recognition, not the israelis. this is a reverse question. >> what do you make of what he said? >> well, i kept pushing him
did hamas do that? >> translator: not hamas, not other people, not hamas. no one can announce except those who commit it, not me. the building lesson is what matters. who committed the circumstances that led to this operation. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza. and he creates such ramifications everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> our reporters in gaza city said when that -- when the bombing was...
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is there no going around hamas. hamas is here to stay. hamas is the power to be reckoned with. president abbas put all of his eggs in the american basket, the united states has failed to deliver. hamas has come a long way, still has a longer way to travel in terms of accepting the political vision for the peace process. the reality is hamas is entirely different than the hamas that exived in the 1990s and early 2000. it has come almost very close to accepting the political roles of the united states and european community should begin the process of engagement with hamas. this is the way to go. >> that would be a significant game changer there. thank you very much. want to go back to the united states where the country is now nearing what we are calling the fiscal cliff, roughly 40 days away. taxes go up 90% on us and president and congress, it they don't make a deal, what's going to happen if this actually takes place? we'll find out after a quick break.d nasal [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nightt
is there no going around hamas. hamas is here to stay. hamas is the power to be reckoned with. president abbas put all of his eggs in the american basket, the united states has failed to deliver. hamas has come a long way, still has a longer way to travel in terms of accepting the political vision for the peace process. the reality is hamas is entirely different than the hamas that exived in the 1990s and early 2000. it has come almost very close to accepting the political roles of the united...
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give hamas and the other palestinian factions a huge blow torie cause hamas will go down to its knees and that they will wave a white flag and the outcome of course you know was so far away from this so i think that yes in the eyes of most of the public opinion of israel it's not only about frustration they're asking no question is difficult questions are targeting israel's decision makers and. you all know very well we are just two months before elections general elections and i think it going to be like a very tense and insanely intensive debate in israel about the whole of this rule cheek or an logic of getting him to come down with the palestinian. groups in terms that could have been reached before using violence and for so the whole of this logic is now under question marks here at least in part of the israeli public opinion harry had it with your experience of the people on the ground what is what is their opinion of hamas now after this. or compare before in a dollar. one one thing that has come about as a result of the operation is israel held everything that happened in the
give hamas and the other palestinian factions a huge blow torie cause hamas will go down to its knees and that they will wave a white flag and the outcome of course you know was so far away from this so i think that yes in the eyes of most of the public opinion of israel it's not only about frustration they're asking no question is difficult questions are targeting israel's decision makers and. you all know very well we are just two months before elections general elections and i think it going...
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very provocative acts by hamas. the israelis need to be convinced hamas is going to stop its rocketing of the israeli population and want to test mohamed morsi. can he deliver a deal? as jamie said, this is a new egypt. and there's no more standoffish relationship with the hamas organization. mohamed morsi has identified with them, supported them throughout this conflict. but then again, mohamed morsi has a relationship, the president of egypt, with the united states of america, with europe, with the international financial institutions. he's the one who needs to facilitate, leverage, pressure, hamas to agree to the cease-fire. and i do agree with jamie, as well. hillary clinton is essential now. the united states is the only country that can put together either a period of calm, deescalation or a full cease-fire. and then hopefully if that is achieved, pick up the initiative and try to reinvigorate discussions between palestinians and israelis. >> one thing this has me thinking about, people complain about the midd
very provocative acts by hamas. the israelis need to be convinced hamas is going to stop its rocketing of the israeli population and want to test mohamed morsi. can he deliver a deal? as jamie said, this is a new egypt. and there's no more standoffish relationship with the hamas organization. mohamed morsi has identified with them, supported them throughout this conflict. but then again, mohamed morsi has a relationship, the president of egypt, with the united states of america, with europe,...
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did hamas do that? >> not hamas, not other people. not hamas. no one can announce except those who committed. not me. the lesson is what matters. what led to this? who created the circumstances that lead to this? it is the killing of the kids of gaza. he created such ramifications. everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> reporters in gaza city said that when the bombing was announced there was celebratory gunfire. i spoke with her with her interview. >> you pressed him about whether or not they would recognize israel. you pressed him on it. this is what he had to say. let's listen. >> you say, that you would accept a two-state solution but that you will not recognize israel a israel's right to exist. >> how can i accept israel, they have occupied my land. i need recognition this is a reverse question. >> what do you make of what he said? >> well, i kept pushing him. i said it is the question. and after several times he said look, when there is a peace agreement then the palestinians can de
did hamas do that? >> not hamas, not other people. not hamas. no one can announce except those who committed. not me. the lesson is what matters. what led to this? who created the circumstances that lead to this? it is the killing of the kids of gaza. he created such ramifications. everywhere. this could lead to any kind of reaction as retaliation for what happened in gaza. >> reporters in gaza city said that when the bombing was announced there was celebratory gunfire. i spoke with...
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but hamas is no gaza why are they targeting gaza hamas and gaza are not the same thing now speaking today there are massive reconciliation at reunification attempts rather excuse me in central gaza city between fatah between hamas between other factions p f l p for example as well so what's happened is seeing is these military operations against israel over the war over the war time were fairly unified they stood together the military groups and the the militant groups now after the war they're now getting towards a political position of doing the same thing less less fragmented. i mean it's very interesting this is the second time they've tried to destroy hamas and they have failed i mean to come out of this. well again i think precisely because of that it comes out strengthened and harry just mentioned the reconsolidation efforts which one hopes i've also been given a significant boost by this except that there may be now forces within hamas who feel that they have been so strengthened by the events of this last week in combination with the regional changes that you're on refer to
but hamas is no gaza why are they targeting gaza hamas and gaza are not the same thing now speaking today there are massive reconciliation at reunification attempts rather excuse me in central gaza city between fatah between hamas between other factions p f l p for example as well so what's happened is seeing is these military operations against israel over the war over the war time were fairly unified they stood together the military groups and the the militant groups now after the war they're...
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the other is hamas. there's an increasing distance between these two organizations which makes it very, very difficult to know who should be negotiating with israel. >> well, the plo, palestine liberation organization remains the representative of the palestinian people, even when hamas formed the palestinian government after the elections of 2006, they acknowledged this fact that the plo will be in charge of conducting negotiations with israel in order to resolve the conflict. so there's no question about who represents the palestinian people here. we do have political differences. this is not a secret. but when it comes to confronting this israeli brutal attack against the gaza strip, witnessing the deaths of innocent civilians, 135 so far have been killed, almost 1,000 wounded, we have put aside all our differences and we do our best to protect our people. >> how do you personally feel about the indiscriminate firing of rockets into israeli civilian areas going back months and years? >> well, we alway
the other is hamas. there's an increasing distance between these two organizations which makes it very, very difficult to know who should be negotiating with israel. >> well, the plo, palestine liberation organization remains the representative of the palestinian people, even when hamas formed the palestinian government after the elections of 2006, they acknowledged this fact that the plo will be in charge of conducting negotiations with israel in order to resolve the conflict. so there's...
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hamas is putting conditions. the minute that hamas will depart from this destructive strategy, from its attempt to put an end to israel, we shall talk with them. you know, don't forget, before we started to talk with them, have the same position. but then they came to the conclusion that war and killing leads to nowhere. the minute they said we're ready to talk, we talked and we achieved partly, not a full peace, it takes time, it's complicated, but much better than shooting. and there was no shooting between us and the palestinians right now. >> finally, mr. president, if there are palestinians watching this interview who feel helpless, who feel completely poverty-stricken, they have nothing, they see no hope and they now see endless israeli rockets flying over their heads, perhaps killing relatives and loved ones, what do you say to them to offer proper constructive hope? >> two things. stop shooting, start talking. it's in their hands. look, i want to say very sincerely, very seriously, we don't hate arabs. we
hamas is putting conditions. the minute that hamas will depart from this destructive strategy, from its attempt to put an end to israel, we shall talk with them. you know, don't forget, before we started to talk with them, have the same position. but then they came to the conclusion that war and killing leads to nowhere. the minute they said we're ready to talk, we talked and we achieved partly, not a full peace, it takes time, it's complicated, but much better than shooting. and there was no...
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with hamas. now, clinton cannot speak with hamas directly because the united states considers it a terrorist group. so by talking to palestinians she can reach hamas. talking to egypt's president is going to be her last stop. as we see here. so by talking to egypt, that's another way for her to communicate with hamas. the region is watching her every step. not only for a cease-fire, but perhaps also for a long-term resolution. a member of hamas told cnn by phone today how his organization is looking to see what the u.s. does. >> i think the egyptians are waiting for some support from the united states in order to make an -- we expect to have an outcome of this today. >> you have so many moving parts in all of this. there is a discrepancy, hamas saying this was a cease-fire, but israel is call iing it a ca down period. and here is israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, moments before word came. >> no country would tolerate rocket attacks against its cities and against its civilians. israel c
with hamas. now, clinton cannot speak with hamas directly because the united states considers it a terrorist group. so by talking to palestinians she can reach hamas. talking to egypt's president is going to be her last stop. as we see here. so by talking to egypt, that's another way for her to communicate with hamas. the region is watching her every step. not only for a cease-fire, but perhaps also for a long-term resolution. a member of hamas told cnn by phone today how his organization is...
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that has elevated hamas. they were fighting their arch enemy if you will and -- >> not recognizing the state of israel and israel views hamas as -- >> as a terrorist organization. >> yes. >> what does that mean moving forward for any kind of actual solution, two-state solution down the road? >> let's see if this were -- this will be overly optimistic, if this were to convince hamas that, you know what, you should accept the conditions of the united states, the european union, others have put forward, you will be recognized, you will be recognized as a -- people will talk to you, you accept israel, you renounce terrorism, and you accept previous israeli palestinian agreements, that would be a significant step forward. i'm not saying hamas is going to do that and we're not getting any indication they're doing it. at the same time, maybe this could be a potential down the road long-term breakthrough if that were to happen. >> the other concern is that hamas will use this time to replenish their stockpile of incr
that has elevated hamas. they were fighting their arch enemy if you will and -- >> not recognizing the state of israel and israel views hamas as -- >> as a terrorist organization. >> yes. >> what does that mean moving forward for any kind of actual solution, two-state solution down the road? >> let's see if this were -- this will be overly optimistic, if this were to convince hamas that, you know what, you should accept the conditions of the united states, the...
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we want hamas to stop shooting at our civilians. we've had 5.5 million israeli under hamas rocket fire. that's well over half of our population and it's very simple. they just have to stop shooting at us and stop creating a situation where they can shoot at us every week. we have to have a different status quo on the ground. once that's on the table, we will be interest. >> there are reports that benjamin netanyahu and abbas will meet with ban ki-moon. do you think there's a possibility abbas and ban ki-moon will meet directly? >> i know prime minister is ready to meet abbas in time, any place. in jerusalem, ramawa. >> let me ask you about a dwround war because when you're talking about the situation, if there isn't a cease fire, you have 75,000 troops now masked to go into gaza. only 30% of the israeli public support a ground war according to the poll today. is a ground war likely? i mean, are you really, really mean it that you could do it? >> first, let's look at some of these reservice. i won't say 75,000, but a large number hav
we want hamas to stop shooting at our civilians. we've had 5.5 million israeli under hamas rocket fire. that's well over half of our population and it's very simple. they just have to stop shooting at us and stop creating a situation where they can shoot at us every week. we have to have a different status quo on the ground. once that's on the table, we will be interest. >> there are reports that benjamin netanyahu and abbas will meet with ban ki-moon. do you think there's a possibility...
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did hamas do that? >> not hamas, not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce those except those who committed it. not me. the lesson is what matters of the what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza, and the continuation. he creates such rea ramificatio. this could lead to what happened in gaza. >> our reporter said when the bombing was announced from loud speakers, there was celebration there in gaza city. i spoke to christiane amanpour. >> reporter: you were wondering about the agreement, let's hear what he had to say, let's listen. >> you say you would accept a two-state solution, but that you will not recognize israel's right to exist? >> i accept a state of the 1967. how can i accept israel? they have occupied my land. i need recognition, not the israelis. this is a reverse question. >> what do you make of what he said? christiane. >> reporter: well, i -- when there is a peace agreement, then the palestinians can decide themselves, that was hi
did hamas do that? >> not hamas, not other people from -- not hamas. no one can announce those except those who committed it. not me. the lesson is what matters of the what led to this? who created the circumstances that led to this operations. it is netanyahu with his crimes in killing the kids of gaza, and the continuation. he creates such rea ramificatio. this could lead to what happened in gaza. >> our reporter said when the bombing was announced from loud speakers, there was...
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i mean, what hamas is doing is wrong. >> i didn't ask about hamas. why is there tolerance in the muslim world for terrorism all the time? why is it always justified away? >> well, because they see that palestinians are being bulldozed, their rights are being taken out, their homes are being taken out unjustifiably. >> you don't fire rockets -- i'm a little behind. stay right there, we'll pick it up. >> they're both victims. >> stay right there, michael. the president himself said the white house sent susan righ suee sunday shows to discuss benghazi. why are they denying they changed the talking points on what the cia presented? our investigation continues tonight. [ forsythe ] we don just come up here for the view up alaska. we find the best, sweetest crafor red lobster that we can find. [ male annncer ] it's time for crabfest at red lobster! this year, try 1 of 5 entrees. like our new snow crab and garlic shrimp. a half-pound of tender crab paired with savory shrimp. just 12.99. or dig into our hearty crab and roasted garlic seafood bake. all with s
i mean, what hamas is doing is wrong. >> i didn't ask about hamas. why is there tolerance in the muslim world for terrorism all the time? why is it always justified away? >> well, because they see that palestinians are being bulldozed, their rights are being taken out, their homes are being taken out unjustifiably. >> you don't fire rockets -- i'm a little behind. stay right there, we'll pick it up. >> they're both victims. >> stay right there, michael. the...
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hamas is getting stronger there by the day. from that point of view, the israelis have not gained politically is of the are faced in really complex situations. they are the strongest power in the region, but they're getting weaker and weaker having so many people who are on friendly, mainly the german the of the americans. >> briefly, the egyptians president has played a key role in trying to establish. how has he fired? >> very well, surprisingly. they have so far withheld credits, over $5 billion, and they have now provided money to the egyptian government for their successful mediating. >> thank you very much. our cairo correspondent joins us on . we have conflicting reports. hamas as a truce has been negotiated. israel says not yet. what's going on? >> it is very unclear. this afternoon, they said the ceasefire was going to be tonight and then hamas in cairo says there is supposed to be a press conference right now as we speak. d, soon after, they say that there might be a ceasefire agreement, but they are not sure. we know
hamas is getting stronger there by the day. from that point of view, the israelis have not gained politically is of the are faced in really complex situations. they are the strongest power in the region, but they're getting weaker and weaker having so many people who are on friendly, mainly the german the of the americans. >> briefly, the egyptians president has played a key role in trying to establish. how has he fired? >> very well, surprisingly. they have so far withheld credits,...
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i mean, for hamas, hamas elected here by the people here. and especially under fire, there's been a lot of support and real questions remain about if there is a cease fire, moving forward, whether hamas is actually improved its situation politically over the other palestinian group fatah. we'll have to wait and see how that plays out in the days ahead. >> yeah. i suppose if there is a cease fire, that will dramatically increase hamas's stature among palestinians and other arabs, i would venture to say. i have no doubt about that. thanks very much. any moment it seems the conflict between the israelis and hamas could tip one way or another toward a cease-fire or a major ground war. joining us now, the spokesman for the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu. mark, thank you for coming in. >> my pleasure, sir. >> how close are you to a cease-fire? >> i don't know. i hope close but i can't say for certain. if it's possible to solve it through diplomatic means, we are happy to and prepared if need be to upscale, upgrade the military option.
i mean, for hamas, hamas elected here by the people here. and especially under fire, there's been a lot of support and real questions remain about if there is a cease fire, moving forward, whether hamas is actually improved its situation politically over the other palestinian group fatah. we'll have to wait and see how that plays out in the days ahead. >> yeah. i suppose if there is a cease fire, that will dramatically increase hamas's stature among palestinians and other arabs, i would...
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out and one wing of hamas and so therefore does iran have less influence on hamas today even though they supply the weapons that they're using? >> iran has much less influence on hamas but it has very, very substantial determinative influence on islamic jihad in gaza which is the group that just every time you have some measure of starts firing rockets. the biggest challenge for hamas if they come up with a cease-fire is how do they impose and enforce that on the iranian-backed islamic jihad group which is the wild card. >> rose: thank you, david, good to see you. >> thanks, charlie. >> rose: david ignatius, back in a moment. stay with us. >> rose: julian sands is here. the british actor is famous for his roles in "e kilng fields" "a room with a view" and the television series "24." he's performing a one-man show called "harold pinter" it's directed by john malkovich and playing at the irish repertoire theater. >> you're finally turning. one for you, one for me. >> every morning i wake up and go, oh, my god. i get to present a celebration of harold pinter. and it fills with me with
out and one wing of hamas and so therefore does iran have less influence on hamas today even though they supply the weapons that they're using? >> iran has much less influence on hamas but it has very, very substantial determinative influence on islamic jihad in gaza which is the group that just every time you have some measure of starts firing rockets. the biggest challenge for hamas if they come up with a cease-fire is how do they impose and enforce that on the iranian-backed islamic...
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hamas for sure. you've witnessed a parade of arab officials literally visiting gaza, showering the political recognition and money. amile an hour of qatar came. the foreign minister of egypt and foreign minister of turkey, and the arab league was there. hamas's stock on this one is rising, and, finally, hamas, again, driving their own narratives have withstood the military power of the middle east most preeminent military force. hamas on this one stands to win. if you add to that the possibility that the israelis may well begin to open up and ease some of the economic restrictions, hamas's legitimacy for the 1.5 million palestinians who currently live in gaza without much hope of an economic future, that legitimacy is going to deepen. if i had to rank this in terms of one, two, three, i think hamas has come out on top. now, the iz raelsz also, though, i think have won. netanyahu has deepened his relationship with president obama. he has demonstrated he can actually involve the president of egypt. egy
hamas for sure. you've witnessed a parade of arab officials literally visiting gaza, showering the political recognition and money. amile an hour of qatar came. the foreign minister of egypt and foreign minister of turkey, and the arab league was there. hamas's stock on this one is rising, and, finally, hamas, again, driving their own narratives have withstood the military power of the middle east most preeminent military force. hamas on this one stands to win. if you add to that the...
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israel doesn't speak to hamas. the u.s. doesn't speak to hamas. you're basically relying on the egyptian government of mohamed morsi. >> and we hope that the egyptians can play a positive role in this. let's be clear here. israel has options. if the diplomatic process proves to be unsuccessful, we will act as my prime minister said earlier today. we can defend ourselves and we can use our military to silence those rockets, to prevent those rockets. we prefer a diplomatic solution. and the diplomatic ball is in play. the two leaders, my prime minister and secretary clinton are meeting now as we speak. she's going obviously to egypt tomorrow to continue talks there. i hope that this diplomatic path brings fruit that we do get the peace and quiet that we want. we'll see. either way, we'll give a certain amount of time for this diplomacy. we hope it can work. we prefer the diplomacy succeed. but israel will not sit be idly. >> you're not ruling out a ground invasion by israeli forces, tanks, armored tender nel carriers, thousands of troops into gaza?
israel doesn't speak to hamas. the u.s. doesn't speak to hamas. you're basically relying on the egyptian government of mohamed morsi. >> and we hope that the egyptians can play a positive role in this. let's be clear here. israel has options. if the diplomatic process proves to be unsuccessful, we will act as my prime minister said earlier today. we can defend ourselves and we can use our military to silence those rockets, to prevent those rockets. we prefer a diplomatic solution. and the...
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and then hamas, i kept thinking what does hamas get out of it? hamas even though you wouldn't say there's certainly nothing like what everybody else is getting, but they do get in a p.r. sense they get to say to the islamic world we took the fight to israel. even if in the long run it ends in a cease-fire, symbolically they stood up. that strengthens their position visavee mahmoud abass looking very, very weak in all of this, wolf. >> jill dougherty at the white house for us with some good reporting. jill, thanks very much. anderson cooper has left gaza and is now here in jerusalem. he's standing by to join me in our next hour. anderson knows what's going on. he's seen this conflict over the past few days up close. we're going to get his take on the cease-fire not even three hours old yet. what's going on? anderson cooper will be here with me. also, my interview with israel's president shimon perez, what he makes of the many challenges facing israel right now. [ man ] in hong kong, on my way to the board meeting... anne's tablet called my phone.
and then hamas, i kept thinking what does hamas get out of it? hamas even though you wouldn't say there's certainly nothing like what everybody else is getting, but they do get in a p.r. sense they get to say to the islamic world we took the fight to israel. even if in the long run it ends in a cease-fire, symbolically they stood up. that strengthens their position visavee mahmoud abass looking very, very weak in all of this, wolf. >> jill dougherty at the white house for us with some...
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>> you know, if hamas changed, if hamas moderated its positions, if hamas met the three benchmarks articulated by the united nations, that is recognizing my country's right to exist, abandoning terrorism and violence, supporting peace, then the door is open to negotiations. but the bad news is i see no evidence of that so far. on the contrary, i think in many ways hamas is stuck in a very extreme position and the evidence for that we saw today. we had the bombing in tel aviv on the bus. and hamas praised that. they welcomed that. they said that was legitimate. and so as long as hamas is doing that sort of thing it is difficult to be optimistic. but if they do change, if they do moderate. if they fundamentally reserve some of their very hard line positions, the door can be opened. >> i mean, do you accept, though, obviously in the last eight or nine days, 30 times as many palestinians have been killed as israelis? so clearly, there is bloodshed on both sides. and israel is not blameless here, either. >> i think the most important issue, though, is what were we doing? i mean, this whole operatio
>> you know, if hamas changed, if hamas moderated its positions, if hamas met the three benchmarks articulated by the united nations, that is recognizing my country's right to exist, abandoning terrorism and violence, supporting peace, then the door is open to negotiations. but the bad news is i see no evidence of that so far. on the contrary, i think in many ways hamas is stuck in a very extreme position and the evidence for that we saw today. we had the bombing in tel aviv on the bus....
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preparations for a ground invasion militants are hitting back another iranian made rocket fired by hamas has been shot down over tel aviv meanwhile israeli precision strikes are leading to a rising number of civilian deaths international efforts to mediate peace are also being stepped up the arab league is now pledging to stand with the palestinians and says israel is committing war crimes in tel aviv. the israeli defense forces have sealed off roads around gaza declaring the area a closed military zone this is just another suggestion that a ground offensive could be imminent also israeli officials have been meeting with foreign diplomats and telling them that they plan to extend the army operations this comes off to some seventy five thousand reservists were called out and we all witnessing an increase in activity along the israeli gaza border now there continues to be heavy shelling from tanks along this border into gaza the tanks as well as all the personnel vehicles have been moved through off this border over the past few days we are also hearing from the chief of these ready defens
preparations for a ground invasion militants are hitting back another iranian made rocket fired by hamas has been shot down over tel aviv meanwhile israeli precision strikes are leading to a rising number of civilian deaths international efforts to mediate peace are also being stepped up the arab league is now pledging to stand with the palestinians and says israel is committing war crimes in tel aviv. the israeli defense forces have sealed off roads around gaza declaring the area a closed...
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we want hamas to stop shooting at our civilians. we've had 5.5 million israeli under hamas rocket fire. that's well over half of our population and it's very simple. they just have to stop shooting at us and stop creating a situation where they can shoot at us every week. that's the situation that existed before this round of fighting. we have to have a different status quo on the ground. once that is on the payable. we will be interested. >> there are reports, of course, that benjamin netanyahu and mack mu abbas will both meet with ban ki-moon. i wonder if you think there's a possibility abbas and moon will meet directly? >> i know prime minister is ready to meet abbas in time, any place. he said it many times, in jerusalem, in ramallah, which is only a seven minute drive away. in new york, anywhere. >> okay, let me ask you about a ground war. when you're talking about the situation, if there isn't a cease-fire, you have 75,000 troops now masked to go into gaza. only 30% of the israeli public support a ground war according to the p
we want hamas to stop shooting at our civilians. we've had 5.5 million israeli under hamas rocket fire. that's well over half of our population and it's very simple. they just have to stop shooting at us and stop creating a situation where they can shoot at us every week. that's the situation that existed before this round of fighting. we have to have a different status quo on the ground. once that is on the payable. we will be interested. >> there are reports, of course, that benjamin...
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hamas does not recognize israel, israel does not recognize hamas. this is an issue that will be sorted out once the israelis decide to have peace with the whole of the palestinian people, not only with certain factions. >> as anderson said, he's not denying that. he's just offering the viewers some clarification on the language here. >> this is not the issue right now, don. the issue right now is an israeli military campaign that are killing hundreds of people and wounding hundreds of people in the gaza strip. innocent people are paying a price for a campaign that is being carried out by a military power, the most powerful country in the middle east, and this has to come to an end. everybody has the right to defend themselves, but an occupying power trying to s subjugate an entire population to its military rule and you want to deny the people, that's absurd. >> anderson, moments ago, another explosion. let's look. >> i don't know if you can hear that. that was another quite large explosion. relatively close to where i am. i'm not sure if that was i
hamas does not recognize israel, israel does not recognize hamas. this is an issue that will be sorted out once the israelis decide to have peace with the whole of the palestinian people, not only with certain factions. >> as anderson said, he's not denying that. he's just offering the viewers some clarification on the language here. >> this is not the issue right now, don. the issue right now is an israeli military campaign that are killing hundreds of people and wounding hundreds...
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you know, when the leader of hamas was asked about it, not only did he not talk about whether hamas was responsible, he actually praised the bombing. >> well, i can not speak on behalf of hamas. i didn't hear that particular leader. but our position on violence and counter violence is clear. the plo does not condone the killing of civilians, be it israelis or palestinians. if you look at the last week of this confrontation, you know very well that 140 palestinians have been killed. 1,000 were wounded. it's very clear who paid the heavier price in this confrontation. >> all right. so let's talk about the conditions of the cease-fire. one of them in terms of the weapons. one of the terms was there is no passage of weapons into gaza. this is obviously significant. one bus alone last year 50 tons of weapons were found being smuggled into the gaza strip. there were mortar shells, anti-missiles, ammunition, assault rifles. is there any way hamas is going to stop smuggling weapons? that one seems to hard to believe. >> the only way to do that is to, one, end the blockade against the gaza strip
you know, when the leader of hamas was asked about it, not only did he not talk about whether hamas was responsible, he actually praised the bombing. >> well, i can not speak on behalf of hamas. i didn't hear that particular leader. but our position on violence and counter violence is clear. the plo does not condone the killing of civilians, be it israelis or palestinians. if you look at the last week of this confrontation, you know very well that 140 palestinians have been killed. 1,000...
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the flip side of that is, you never know where a hamas or an alleged hamas person may be. where they may have an office in a building like this, where, you know, do they have an office on the floor below you? you don't know. and so israel considers that a target and so they're going to -- if they fire missiles into your building, you can can very easily get killed. >> one final question. did they have any clue when you walked around the street, you were wearing body arrest more and a helmet. do these folks know who you are? >> some people do. >> is cnn in gaza? >> a lot of people didn't have electricity, some people have satellite dishes, they're able to see it. but, you know, i actually don't -- you try not -- i actually didn't wear body armor all of the time. >> i saw some pictures of you wearing it. >> yeah, in some cases you would wear body armor, other times you didn't. a lot of it had to do with i was interacting with people, just regular people, i generally don't wear body armor, because i think it sends the wrong message if i'm asking people to tell me their story,
the flip side of that is, you never know where a hamas or an alleged hamas person may be. where they may have an office in a building like this, where, you know, do they have an office on the floor below you? you don't know. and so israel considers that a target and so they're going to -- if they fire missiles into your building, you can can very easily get killed. >> one final question. did they have any clue when you walked around the street, you were wearing body arrest more and a...
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hamas is responding. we do not respond violently and we do not condone violence, but at the same time the occupation is the most pervasive and brutal and cruel form of violence against a captive, defenseless population. in the west bank we don't have weapons and so on and there is no violence and then you have terror all over the place and the israeli army protects the settlers and defends them against the palestinians who are actually sitting ducks and civilian victims. so in a sense, the real issue is the occupation, the real issue is israel's sense of entitlement, of privilege, of exceptionalism as a country above the law and not bound by international law and international humanitarian law. when hamas was just part of the system and wasn't in control of gaza, israel did exactly the same and more and continues to do that. so the question is not whether hamas is in control of gaza. the question is the occupation and israel's sense of impunity and of course, the international community's granting this mi
hamas is responding. we do not respond violently and we do not condone violence, but at the same time the occupation is the most pervasive and brutal and cruel form of violence against a captive, defenseless population. in the west bank we don't have weapons and so on and there is no violence and then you have terror all over the place and the israeli army protects the settlers and defends them against the palestinians who are actually sitting ducks and civilian victims. so in a sense, the real...